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From "La Stampa" of Monday, March 29, 2010
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not there is more than the minimum guaranteed by law
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ITALY TO THE MAXIMUM FALL Raphael ZANOTTI

Contracts awarded with "discounts" up to 93 percent, pay for 390 days. In Turin
an enterprise offering free work to the City. Professionals in alarm


Torino Municipality of Grado the design and supervision for the restoration of the auditorium `Marin was awarded with a fall of 93.60%. A discount seen in the field of `engineering. Not only
: who won the race `s contract has secured a reduction in the time the final design plans and payment of 75% at 390 days compared to 30 proposals. In Turin, recounts President of the order of geologists Silvano Cremasco, has gone even further: the fall of 100%.
"` A company interested in drilling in Milan win the `contract for the installation of a bridge over the Dora - Cremasco says -` has honored "the City with an offer crazy: the report and carrying out threw geological surveys and specialized works underground were free. "
A proposal so embarrassing that the City was forced to seek an opinion from your legal department before entrusting the job.
" We are a category in disarray - the President of the order of engineers in Turin , Remo Vaud - the law on deregulation, the infamous ex Bersani Decree, ha creato una situazione pericolosissima.
Qui non si tratta più di aprire alla concorrenza, con ribassi così alti è in gioco la sicurezza per tutti i cittadini e la qualità dei lavori svolti».
Il problema riguarda tutte le professioni dell`area tecnica, anche se ci si muove per singoli ordini professionali.
Il tema, però, verrà posto all`attenzione del prossimo congresso nazionale degli ingegneri che si svolgerà a Torino dall`8 al 10 settembre.
«Così non si può più andare avanti - continua l`ingegner Vaudano - solo nel Torinese, negli ultimi tempi, sono stati aggiudicati lavori con ribassi del 77% (Cittadella del Politecnico), del 77,8% (Società Interporto di Orbassano), del 73,52% (ristrutturazione della caserma Berardi di Pinerolo) e appalti Anas e Asl con riduzione degli onorari compresi tra il 65 e l`85%».
Non si tratta di picchi o casi isolati.
L`ordine degli ingegneri torinese ha effettuato un`analisi a campione:
50 appalti di opere pubbliche su 200 aggiudicati negli ultimi sei mesi dalla pubblica amministrazione. La media al ribasso è risultata essere del 72% con un picco dell`83%. Il 22 marzo una circolare del Consiglio nazionale degli ingegneri denunciava la stessa situazione: onorari ridotti con medie superiori al 70% in tutta la Penisola.
Si tratta di un trend. Nel 2006 il ribasso medio batteva sul 30-35%, nell`anno successivo il ribasso era aumentato di 10-15 punti, e so the next one.
These estimates, order of Turin in 2010 established a monitoring official public bodies will send engineers to the outcome of races. "We intend to explore all the work and to punish members that will have you executed the order to return the evil mega discounts they propose."
But rebates are so blatant only the damaging effect of market competition? According to the professional associations do not. To participate in competitions at the maximum discount must present a maxisconto, but for contracts awarded by the criterion of `best value for money matters a lot in the curriculum. Many professionals break down almost to zero while their fees to win a particular type of work that wants to continue to do so later.
"It is necessary to reverse the trend - says Peter De Paola, Chairman of the National Council of Geologists - calls for the restoration. `compulsory nature of the law on minimum fees." The National Council of Geologists is currently the only one opposing judicially `all` Antitrust who raised questions about the maintenance of minimum fees related to the ethical codes that speak of "dignity" and "professional dignity." Currently the issue is pending the TAR. But regional
orders are moving.
The order of the geologists of Turin has intentions to explore the work entrusted to extend cemetery a few weeks ago in their own writing. According to rate the work was worth € 4000, was awarded to 700. "If we see that it was poorly executed and that there are security risks to initiate disciplinary proceedings.
ask a legal opinion for a `possible sanction. We will do so with all: so much with the members who have offered discounts to those with the excessive, employees of public bodies, which will accept them. "
Same thing they want to do the engineers. Looms a fratricide.

79 percent average reduction
are the results of this survey carried out by `Order of Engineers in Turin on a sample of 50 public works contracts bandits in the area in recent months. The peak is 83 percent of `The Congress arriving in Turin, 1000 ~ The dangers engineers pearl community due to declines in excess of` an invitation to tender will be a central theme of the forthcoming 55 th National Congress of Engineers to be held in Turin From the September 8 to 10.
The congress, which will be at the Teatro Carignano in Turin returns after 50 years. It is expected the arrival of over a thousand people from all over Italy. L `ospitality provides some dinners to be held in famous cities: L` 8 September there will be a "snack sinoira" at the Museum of Cinema, on 9 evening, a dinner at the Gallery of Diana's gay Venaria and a dinner on Friday 10 Piedmontese entertainment event to Palaisozaki. During the days of the conference carers and family members receive a complimentary subscription to the `Turin Museum and will participate in guided tours of the city and its neighborhoods.
The conference is sponsored by the Ministry of Cultural Heritage, the City and the Province of Turin and is waiting for the Piedmont Region.

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